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David's avatar
May 4Edited

The incentives between Waymo and Uber have never been fully aligned, dating back to when Uber ATG was directly competing with Waymo on robotaxi development. Uber sold off ATG, betting on autonomy becoming commoditized and a competitive marketplace emerging on a timescale commensurate with ATG's own development horizon. (And probably also betting that Uber's new public market shareholders would not have the patience to see it through at the kind of burn rate ATG was enduring.)

It seems like they miscalculated, or at least, were unlucky, because since then, Waymo has dominated in the US--attributable in no small part to the shocking collapse of Cruise.

I view Waymo and Uber as now being in the midst of a series of empirical tests to see who actually has the market power: Uber, the aggregator who owns the overwhelming majority of the customer relationship and can provide liquidity as a ridehail "market maker", or Waymo, who has an objectively superior product. Time will tell, and the dynamics will get exponentially more complex when a true second AV ridehail player enters the market.

Anyway--great writeup, thanks!

Disclosure: I'm long Waymo.

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Nice synopsis. Austin & Atlanta were cities 4&5. It seems obvious now that Waymo's plan to quintuple cities in 2026 from 5 to 25 was already baked in including a car strategy. They largely starved cars in Austin until recently and Atlanta still seems ignored. The attention given to the 2026 cities with service expansions seem to foretell these Uber partnered cities feel doomed. This is a pre-positioned car allocation to an amazing number of cities. Waymo actually gets to 20-25 cities this year without much mention of Uber this feels like a nail in the coffin. I figure Austin's utility for Waymo is to be juxtaposed to Tesla and only a handful of cars operating in a small Hamlet of South Austin from 10a-3p when not raining after 10+ months of effort in the HQ city!!! It makes the lack of progress of a 'competitor' embarrassing I think. For me, I ignore the hype of most players and ONLY CARE about rider only miles available to everyone. Tesla only released an Android application in the last week. This is a worldwide market and Android is ~4B users vs iOS ~1.5B worldwide.

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