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Brady Dale's avatar

This is all really interesting but I think the bet on the speed of the switch to AV from S&P is super conservative. I think we're all going to be blown away by how fast the flywheel moves once it gets going.

Kevin Thuot's avatar

Harry, thanks I enjoyed your summary and analysis.

Echoing what Brady said, it seems like the transition could happen much faster than you lay out.

The analysis you highlighted concluded that AVs were having a small but noticeable impact on rideshare economics in 2025. That's during a period when the total number of commercial AVs went from ~2,000 to ~3,000.

Looking forward, Waymo is potentially going to put 50,000+ AVs on the road over the next 3 years. Here's one of several partnership they are pursuing:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/waymo-mulls-2-5-billion-003105155.html

50,000 / 3,000 = 17x. A 17x scale up over 2025 numbers should have a much larger impact on rideshare than we saw in 2025. And that's just Waymo - Zoox, Tesla, AVride, Nuro/Uber/NVIDIA/Lucid, and more are all going to be putting thousands of AVs on the road as well.

I agree that exurban and rural areas will be much slower to feel these changes than urban and 1st ring suburbs.

In 2030, for major metro areas from New York down to ~St. Louis in size, don't you think the rideshare market looks very different from today?

I appreciate your insight here.

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